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madeupofstars: So, an aside about Jeyne. And Talisa.

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eruditechick:

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So, I feel like I need to say a little more about this. First, establishing some things:

• I realise that Jeyne Westerling had very little personality in the books.
• I think that Talisa actually could be a very interesting character, if GoT was not based off of said books.

Things that bother me:

Wait, has it not been revealed that Talisa is lying and is actually Jeyne? Because that’s where I thought they were going with this. Is it not????? Bear in mind I haven’t seen tonight’s episode yet. Just- if Talisa isn’t going to turn out to actually be Jeyne, I’m not sure wtf they’re doing in this show anymore.

I have seen many things on the internet that say “Talisa Maegyr is a character created to replace Jeyne Westerling,” and in interviews they’re all SHE’S THIS AMAZING HEALER BLAH BLAH BLAH no like, secret mentioned or anything. If they do somehow like, pull away the curtain and Talisa is Jeyne, idk if it makes me wtf more or less, because why the fuck would a Westerling be out on her own masquarading as a chick from Volantis. :< aghhhhhh whyyyy did they make this choiiiiiice. 

I was under the imppression she used a false name. Maybe it’s to hide the fact she’s a Westerling.

I very much hope that’s the case, although that doesn’t really explain how/why Jeyne would be tromping around a battlefield for weeks cutting off feet. I’m just very confused :(

Well, in ASOS didn’t she and Robb meet when he was hurt and she healed him? That’s why he married her. (Am I giving away spoilers? D:)

(Not to me? D: I’m assuming people who don’t know won’t be reading this…? D:) but yeah - she bandaged his cuts or w/e, but she’s a lord’s daughter, and is very much a part of her family. It just doesn’t make sense to me. I do hope she’s Jeyne, although I don’t really know what to think about her lying about a bunch of stuff. It doesn’t bug me that they shifted Ros and squashed her together with Ayaya, or that Asha is Yara and all that stuff. It bugs me that it makes Robb’s throwing away his commitment a lot more pre-meditated, and his men / mother have all put in their $0.02 and they don’t like her, so he’s disregarding all of their advice, and it’s just a giant mess. In short, I hope she’s Jeyne, but I have no idea if/how they would make her be remotely similar to the Jeyne in the books. I don’t dislike Talisa, I just am confused by her. I probably would like her if the series was not book-based and was an original work.

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I mean maybe I’m just easy to please by finally getting a decent consensual sex scene 18 episodes into the series.

It was certainly the best we’ve gotten so far, which is great because it does fit the ‘stupid…

Have they said that she’s really Jeyne (who has turned out to be some sort of crazy doctor with a secret identity, if that’s the case?) I thought they just threw Jeyne out with the bathwater, and look! new jeyne!

sansastarkly:

I really enjoy Robb and Talisa’s characters this season, because I feel like they’re both very similar. They seem to both feel that they can do what needs to be done and still be a good person while doing it (which may or may not be true), if that makes any sense. 

I agree it makes sense - I think a lot of the fandom backlash is happening because she’s the only character who seems to be randomly generated from a bunch of things that are never mentioned in GoT. Personally, I’d like her a hell of a lot more if GoT wasn’t based on ASoIaF. =/ I don’t think she’s a bad character if we’re doing a show from the start, like Six Feet Under or something.

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I’ll disclaim this as such: I never had feelings about Robb, or Jeyne, or Robb/Jeyne—meaning, no antipathy, and came into the show with nothing but endless curiosity as to how it’d be treated, because the show shedding light on underdeveloped characters…

So I’m going to be honest, and say that the whole Talisa thing leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. It’s supposed to be a statement on love, duty, and honor - that Robb loves this girl, that he goes with his hormones and his heart before his head, and has to marry her because she’s noble, and because for once in his life he’s doing this thing for him, and it all goes to hell in a handbasket because he has broken his oath to the Freys, and he can’t do what he wants and he’s hemmed in by conventions and it ultimately leads to a giant horrorshow. 

There is no reason for him to marry Talisa. She has made it really clear that social conventions don’t matter to her, since she up and left home, left her parents, and now is doing a job that no one else in all of Westeros seems to do who is not a silent sister. The maesters? Not running around on the battlefield. It bothers me that she’s such a ~rebel~, that she’s a ~special snowflake.~ I love that the women in GoT have agency, and if Robb fell in love with an independant doctor-woman who just happened to be in the books because there were such things? Great! 

But that’s not the story. Jeyne is not that woman. Jeyne is kind; Jeyne is a lord’s daughter. Jeyne has almost no personality in the books, but when they take her crown, she sobs and says It was mine, he gave it to me. I loved him. and it’s not something I can see Talisa doing. 

This is besides the point that it annoys the everloving shit out of me that she didn’t have a shift on under her dress, and from her actions, she does not seem like this is her first rodeo, so IT’S NOT A MATTER OF HONOR. (It’s fine if I’m misreading it, and she was totally just a really gung-ho virgin, but it seems doubtful) but having sex with her on the floor isn’t ruining her, which means he doesn’t have to marry her, because he married her because of honor, and ajsahdkjASH BLAH. /keymash

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Robb Stark - King in the North
Series 02 - Episode 06 

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But can we talk about how amazing Robb Stark is as a leader and a human being and how perfectly perfect Richard Madden is in the role??

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• Question: Oona is playing Jeyne so it's very likely that she was just lying to Robb about her name. However, HBO has not disclosed Jeyne's last name so she may be playing a different character from Jeyne Westerling - Anonymous
• Answer:

  http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Characters/Entry/Talisa/ <- this is why I’m worried, but I fully realise that it’s a wiki, so IDEK.

  Because last I heard, Oona was playing Jeyne, and I was like “Oh! Well, Jeyne’s a badass, that’s lovely! Yay!” and then found out she was a different person altogether :[

so, as dick-graysoned just told me and I’m so fucking confused. Spoilers below, but question, about Jeyne / Talisa / wtfever.

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